by Clarisa Marcee
May 2001
New Texas Magazine
With sounds like the ones that Austin native Eric Johnson emits
via his six string, you would think the man was from the outer
limits of the Universe! He swears he's from here, though. The
Grammy Award winner has won the hearts, or rather the ears, of
the likes of Carole King, Christopher Cross, and Cat Stevens.
His playing style can be just as intense as it can be sweet and
mellow. As a matter of fact, musician Johnny Winter recalls, "He
was only 16 and I remember wishing that I could have played like
that at that age."
Johnson had his first major release in 1975 with the jazz fusion
group Electromagnets. He later released "Tones" in 1986, "Ah Via
Musicom" in 1990, "Venus Isle" in 1996, and "Seven Worlds" in
1998. His latest effort with Alien Love Child, "Live and Beyond"
(Favored Nations Entertainment), came out last year.
Rumor has it that after Johnson made his first appearance on
"Austin City Limits" in 1984, the artist formerly and once again
known as Prince was so impressed by his work that he called his
parent label Warner Brothers and insisted that they sign him.
Within months, Johnson was signed to Reprise, a Warner subsidiary.
Though he can't verify if the story holds any truth, it is an
interesting note that Prince collaborators Wendy and Lisa sing
unaccredited backing vocals on "Tones," which was nominated for
a Grammy!
Presently, Johnson is touring as Alien Love Child with drummer
Bill Maddox, who worked with him in Electromagnets, and with hot-shot
bassist Chris Maresh. Here is a glimpse into the life of Eric
Johnson and the non-technical side of his music.
Clarisa Marcee: What was life like for you growing up in Austin?
Eric Johnson: It was cool. My dad loved music and he was
always playing records so I was kind of subjected to all types
of music. I took piano lessons and studied classical music. As
a little kid, my dad used to take me to classical concerts like
Van Cliburn, the symphonies and all sorts of Broadway things and
big bands that would come through town like Count Basie. When
I was about 10 or 11, I started getting into rock 'n' roll. It
wasn't until I was about 13 or 14 that I started absorbing the
Austin scene, going out to hear bands like 13th Floor Elevators.
CM: Who were some of your early Austin favorites?
EJ: Johnny Winter was really great. I used to go hear him
for 50¢ when he played at the Vulcan Gas Company. When the Armadillo
opened up, Ravi Shankar used to play all the time. When I was
real young, there was a group called New Atlantis - they were
really great. James Polk used to play in those days, and he was
great. There were tons of bands. There was even one called the
Georgetown Medical Band.
CM: How did you get your start playing guitar?
EJ: When I was 13, I had a friend named Thurston, and we
used to hang out. He was a couple of years older than me, and
had friends from high school who wanted to form a combo. So we
formed a group called The Sounds of Life, and we started playing
clubs, fraternity parties, and other gigs - anything we could
do.
CM: You said your father introduced you to a lot of music
early on, what about your mom?
EJ: My mom kinda taught herself to play piano because she
had to make sure we practiced our lessons on piano. When she would
try to go over and make us practice like we were supposed to,
she would say, "No, this is what you're supposed to do..." and
she inadvertently learned the notes on the staffs!
CM: Did your folks have big plans for your future like having
you become a doctor or professor or anything like that?
EJ: I think my dad did. Mom was always kinda cool about it.
It's understandably so. My dad was an MD and just the pressure
of that type of environment and social thing, you know. Probably
a lot of it was warranted that I was taking a chance going off
and being an artist, not knowing if I would be a starving artist
or not. I don't think it was his first choice. Later on, he felt
good about it [Eric's music career]. It took a few years, though.
CM: Everyone seems to know the technical parts of your music
(i.e., what type of amps you use or strings you prefer), but there
is an obvious, deeper aspect to your music - mainly the spirit-tinged
feel of Tones and Venus Isle. Is it your intention to set a certain
mood with your songs or is it just a matter of your personal style?
EJ: In a broad sense of the word "spirituality," I think
it was definitely intended because I try to impart into the music
that I try - although I'm not always successful at it - to place
in it some type of intrinsic energy that will attempt to touch
somebody if they listen to it. That is only because that is kind
of the type of recipe I like to hear out of a piece of art. I
like to be touched by something. I think it is very important
to have documentative-type art where it really tells it like it
is and you get a prognosis of what is going on in the world or
on the streets. That especially has extra value when it has a
bit of a 3-D insight to it to where there is a window which we
can use as a shift. Otherwise, if you do not have some sort of
momentum within it like that, I just don't know - at least to
me - it has a bit of a static value to it. In other words, I like
to hear a little bit of something in there that allows something
that will provide some sort of impact on the listener. That is
the kind of music that has always inspired me and inculcated a
passion in me to strive and push the envelope and have the impetus
to create. I try to do that, but half the time I blow it, but
it is very forefront for me to try to do that. That is the kind
of stuff that touches me. Otherwise, it's kind of like reading
a magazine ad.
CM: What inspired the rather ethereal sounds and feel of Venus
Isle?
EJ: Venus Isle was a really good idea that I didn't quite
pull off. There are some parts of that record that are good and
there are parts that just missed the mark. It was a strange period
in my life where I was going through a lot of things. I was trying
to shift to a different vibe that was more of a yin-type energy.
Since I was going for that, it was of utmost importance that I
pull it off at a very high integrity level to draw the attention
away from the other thing I was doing. I did succeed a little
bit, but I think I kind of missed it. I think that was because
everything was coming too much from the mind and not the heart.
I was having heart ideas, but was filtering them through the mind.
I spent so long doing the record and beating it up that I lost
some of the spontaneity. I said there were some parts of the record
where it hit the mark, but unfortunately it didn't sustain enough.
I was really trying to create a record with a healing vibe to
where it would put you into more of a smooth, well-being place
that comes from within the listener - not from the music I'm making.
It was intended to be more of a spark. You know some days you
can be outside and you see something that just sparks you. It
is not what you see that sparks you to get to that place of well-being,
it was just used as a catalyst. I think that is why I spent so
much time doing it. I had this huge idea of how I wanted to have
this catalyst spark that would evoke something that would be completely
from the individual. It wouldn't be like, "Oh Venus Isle did this."
It would be like you don't really think that much about a match
once you build a fire. The match was just something that you used
to strike it. It could be any kind of match. It doesn't have to
be this match or that match.
CM: Who and/or what is the biggest inspiration in your songwriting?
EJ: If I try to write a piece of music that makes me feel
good or that I feel has some kind of value if it could have any
kind of constituency that could provide that value. It has to
have some kind of value or merit to be there in the first place.
CM: Do you have a special place where you go to find inspiration
or to get in the "right frame of mind" to let your creativity
flow?
EJ: No. I think it is more of being in touch with what you
are really feeling. Everybody feels different things at different
times. So consequently, different kinds of music comes out of
different times and feelings.
CM: What do you do when you are not recording or touring?
EJ: I'm trying to think of something wild to make up like
sky surfing! [laughter] I do that, I guess, in my dreams. I really
like to go anywhere there is water. I like to jet ski and water
ski, sometimes just hang out with friends or go down to the coast.
CM: If you had to describe your music to someone from another
planet, how would you describe it?
EJ: I guess it is just my own brand of Earth music. It is
kind of a hodgepodge of different things that I have picked up
from other people.
CM: Are there any new musical acts that have caught your attention?
EJ: I like Rage Against the Machine and some of the energy
stuff that they do, Massive Attack, some of Verve's stuff, Stone
Temple Pilots. As far as brand new, for the last several months
I've been touring and haven't paid much attention. Jill Scott
is interesting. The new Doyle Bramhall record is interesting,
too - I really like the song "Green Light Girl."
CM: Is there anyone you'd like to collaborate with that you
haven't?
EJ: Maybe Ethel Merman? [laughter] Just kidding! I'd like
to do Third Stone from the Sun with her. I think that would be
out of sight!
CM: That's kind of scary!
EJ: It is kind of scary. Hopefully, it will never happen.
I love collaborating with people, period. I'd love to collaborate
with Neil Finn. I think he is a great songwriter and singer. I
like his voice. I like playing with anybody. Obviously if I want
to play with Ethel, I'd play with anybody. I obviously don't have
much shame at all!
CM: How did Alien Love Child come to be?
EJ: After being in the studio for so long, I just wanted
to get out and play clubs, just to do gigs just for fun while
I was still recording. Bill Maddox came up with the name and we
just did this anonymous thing without any advertising. Chris Maresh
got involved. We did it for fun and it kind of grew out of that
and turned into its own thing.
CM: Is Alien Love Child a temporary diversion?
EJ: I think we will continue it. It is a nice outlet. The
three of us are getting a bit of a better rapport all the time.
It is just getting better and better, and it is fun. We really
enjoy it. We are going to keep it up and see where it takes us.
CM: Would you say that this style of blues is something you've
always wanted to do or do you prefer rock?
EJ: I think I just like everything. The blues/rock thing
is just something I grew up on and used to jam and improvise with
a lot when I was a kid, so it just comes kind of naturally to
play that way.
CM: Are there plans to release another rock album in the future?
EJ: Yeah, hopefully. I'm just taking it as it comes to see
what kind of music comes out.
CM: Are you touring as Alien Love Child right now?
EJ: Yes, we are.
CM: Being the perfectionist that everyone says you are, how
did you manage to put together a live album? Was it easier than
working on a studio recording?
EJ: It was easier. Once we decided to do a live album, I
wanted to make sure I did a live record, and not take it into
the studio and overdub it forever. It was easier, too, because
once I resigned to that mindset, we recorded three nights and
we used the best takes of each night.
CM: How is "Live and Beyond" doing now?
EJ: It is doing pretty well. It is doing better than we expected.
It is kind of a quirky, improvisational record. It was never intended
to be a well thought-out thing to where it was formulated to do
this or that. It was more of an improvisational thing.
CM: Where is your current tour taking you?
EJ: We have been all over the US and we are finishing up
in the Southeast before we head overseas. We might go to Europe
in the Fall. Right now, we are going to Japan, Hawaii, and Australia.
CM: Any Austin shows in the near future?
EJ: We are going to try to play sometime in June when we
get back.
CM: Do you have any words of wisdom for budding musicians?
EJ: Just keep trying to make music that is meaningful. That
valuable space on a CD or that wonderful opportunity you have
in front of a crowd, try to make the most meaning out of it. Keep
the window open. Don't get hung up in just one way of thinking.
The quality and integrity is all that is needed. Other than that,
the sky is the limit.
CM: When can we expect another album from you?
EJ: I have a studio record that is well on the way I just
have to get home to finish it up.
CM: How would you like to be remembered when you are gone?
EJ: Somebody who tried to make a sound that pleased somebody
or touched somebody. One of my favorite guitarists of all time
is Wes Montgomery, and I think that - more than how wonderful
and how great he was - I will always remember him by the faculty
that he had. He would play one note and it would touch my heart.
That is such a sublime value for making music in the first place.
There can't be any better reason for music for me. Everybody has
their own reason for music, whether it be just to party or to
get their energy up or whatever. They are all valuable reasons.
But then, maybe there is this big giant space and above all of
that is a place where something really touches you and makes you
a little wider person. I don't see how it could get any better
than that, as far as the reason for it. That is what I feel like
Wes did. It is an emotional feeling for me whenever I hear any
record of his. It doesn't matter what he is playing, I could hear
just one note.
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